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Old 06-04-2005, 09:02 PM   #1
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Default Is RochesterCasino playable? Thanks for sharing your advice and experience

Hi, Fellow:

Have you played in www.rochestercasino.com?

Do you feel comfortable?

Were you paid in a timely fashion?

Was their customer service helpful?

Did they stand by their posted rules?

Is their software a reputable one with a true RNG?

Thanks for sharing.

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Old 06-04-2005, 11:03 PM   #2
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No idea, but yesterday I received spam from grand-casino-online.net, which is "sponsored" by rochestercasino.com, and I have strict rules about spammers. According to the website "Our software was developed and is maintained by A.S.T. Gaming Solutions, one of the leaders online gaming software companies", this does not exactly fill me with confidence. I would not risk my own money at this casino.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:18 AM   #3
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I would not recommend them!

They use the same software as www.cityofkings.com, a client of WOL for around 3 months last year. I tried COK and won and got paid instantly. So I gave Rocester a try but the results were no good.

They allowed Bacarrat for their crazy requirement and they spam like crazy, so I guess from these two characters you can infer something fishy.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:28 AM   #4
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Avogic (they changed their name to AST last year) software.
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Old 09-04-2005, 01:27 PM   #5
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Thanks, GrandMaster, Bonuslover, and Jetset,

Based on the overall feeling, I should take my money somewhere else.

It would be nice if RochesterCasino can jump in and state their stand why they are playable.

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Old 21-04-2005, 10:33 AM   #6
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well for those who cares

just learnt that this casino has a mininum withdrawal of....(drumrolls...)

$100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 30-04-2005, 11:50 AM   #7
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Hi,

this is my first post here.

I have some specifics to share about Rochester Casino and I would like to know what people think of my experience with them.

Over two months ago, on February 7, I deposited at Rochester and won a substantial amount (3000$), but since then the casino has been refusing to pay me.

What happened is this : on that day I deposited 500$, received a 1250$ bonus (non cashable, with 30 times deposit + bonus to wager), hit the blackjack tables and brought my balance to 4750$ in over 52500$ of wagering.

Before cashing out, I contacted Live Chat and Moe, one the CSRs, explicitly confirmed to me that I had fulfilled the wagering requirement for the bonus and he even congratulated me (I still have a copy of that chat session).

Two days later, the casino denied my cashout. They said blackjack did not count towards the wagering requirement, even though when I played there was no such rule. They added the rule restricting blackjack AFTER I played and cashed out.I checked the rules before playing and there was no rules restricting blackjack. There is no way I would have missed it since, once the rules appeared, it was in plain view at the top of the Rules & Reg. page. Also, I have been in contact with another player who was explicitly told that blackjack counted and he was told that AFTER the time of my cashout.I contacted Janet Evans from customer care and she maintained that the blackjack rule was not modified.

At that point, I sought help from a couple of people who I hoped could help. One was ignored by the casino and the other I still haven't heard back from.

On March 20, I lost patience with the whole thing and, in the hope of ending the problem, I logged into my casino account and hit the baccarat table. Bacarrat is one of the games which counts now (and counted at the time of my original deposit) towards the rollover for my bonus.

I started my wagering all over again and wagered over 52500$ of mostly 50-200$ hands of baccarat. At the end of this session, I had won and additional 47$ which took my balance to 4797$. I thought that my troubles were over, but apparently I was wrong.

Right after wagering, I asked Linda from Live chat to confirm my rollover for the day. She said 46,915$. At this point I logged back into my casino account, opened my play history and proceeded to manually count every single bet I had made that day. The total was near 53k, which closely matched my own data, but was 6k over the rollover they told me.

Linda was supposed to inquire the discrepancy and come back at me shortly, but she did not. Later on I chatted with Pablo who promised someone would look into it but it would take 24 hours. The next day I heard nothing from the casino, so I opened a chat and spoke with Duke. Duke said he would get my real rollover total in a few minutes. After a while he came back to the chat and told me all my baccarat play was worthless, because of my blackjack playing back in February! This makes no sense at all since blackjack was never EXCLUDED. The rules, even the present rules, merely mention that blackjack does not count towards rollover. Nothing more. The rule goes like this : "The games Roulette, Casino War, and Blackjack (any variation) do not count on rollover requirements." This is the rule that appears on the casino's website today. It has not been changed since appearing there a couple of days after my original playing session in February.

I emailed the manager Rob Marshall about the outrageousness of this but he did not reply.

A few days later I emailed support with a fresh request for my total baccarat rollover. The reply came from Janet Evans from the accounting dept. She failed to give my baccarat rollover, but she wanted me to forfeit my winnings on the basis of my blackjack playing. The english in her email was so bad that it was barely readable, but that's what I understood of it.

I showed some good will by wagering another 53k on baccarat on top of the disputed blackjack play. I accepted to dismiss all my blackjack play in order to solve a dispute and in response they bring forward an artificial, undefendable reason to deny my winnings. I think this is extremely dishonest of them.

I can't wait to hear opinions form the gambling community.
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Old 04-05-2005, 03:14 AM   #8
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Unfortunately you've probably just confirmed what most people were expecting from these i.e they're not to be trusted.

They were spamming me hard for a couple of months at the beggining of the year, but fortunately for me I didn't chance them. The website was far from professional, and I'd not heard of the software which just says to keep clear for me.

I'm also not really sure who you could turn to for help unfortunately. Maybe Casinomeister could help you or Bethug etc at the Playersunion? But unfortunately with this sort of outfit there's not usually much comeback if they screw you.

Also if you deposited via Neteller, they can help you in as far as getting your deposit back (not your winnings though).
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Old 05-06-2005, 03:14 PM   #9
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Mothergoosebumps,

When was the last contact you had with Rochester.

I hear that they stung quite a few people.

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Old 05-06-2005, 06:28 PM   #10
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Here is the very last I heard from them :
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Dear Ms XXXXX,

I'm sorry to inform you that , you're rollover requirement does not count towards you're requirement due to the fact that, as per our last e-mail conversation I explained to you the only way for you to be able to withdrawal which was and its by re starting your balance to the original deposit plus bonus. if you want to reach to an agreement all you have to do is let me know since under this conditions I will not process any payout request.

Please understand that, at the moment you decided to start playing any other game besides the restricted games, you did not deal with our previous restrictions regarding you're situation.

If you have any questions feel free to send me an e-mail or give me a call at 1-877-841 2154.

Sincerely,

Janet Thompson
Accounting Department

Ms. Thompson wanted an agreement, but the only option she "offered" was to forfeit my winnings.

That's the last contact I had with them.
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