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gengoro
Im looking to get into online roulette, but Im finding that its not part of a lot of casinos wagering requirements. Are there any that do have it and if so are they a US friendly casino?

KasinoKing
Im looking to get into online roulette, but Im finding that its not part of a lot of casinos wagering requirements. Are there any that do have it and if so are they a US friendly casino?
Yes & No.
i.e. Yes some casinos do allow roulette in WR, and No, none of the ones I know accept Americans... except 3Dice where Euro roulette (single zero) counts at 50%.
I have quite a comprehensive list of who does what here (http://www.kasinoking.co.uk/Roulette.htm) for anyone who's interested.

In any event, even if roulette is allowed it is normally at a reduced percentage in WR which doesn't make it worth-while taking the bonus in the first place.
My personal advice is; if you want to play roulette - don't take a bonus.

Good luck! :thumbsup:
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All allows roulette. WR requirements differ in each, however. Check terms before starting to play!

casinomac
Most of the online casinos do not accept roulette for wagering requirements ( Bonus ) . I would suggest you to try to play on slots, the bonuses will be cleared faster.

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All allows roulette. WR requirements differ in each, however. Check terms before starting to play!

None of these casinos accept US Players, right?

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Yes & No.
Yes some casinos do allow roulette in WR, and No, none of the ones I know accept Americans...
KK said it all :p
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I am not sure.

But Grandevegas Casino also allows roulette play with bonus, try that, that is RTG.

KasinoKing
I am not sure.

But Grandevegas Casino also allows roulette play with bonus, try that, that is RTG.
Yes, but roulette only counts at 25% and the bonus is PHANTOM. :( (I hate that!)

So for example, if you took their 200% 1st sign-up bonus you would deposit $50 & get $100 'free'.

Then you'd have to wager $9,000 ($150 x 15 x 25%)

Your expected loss on single-zero roulette is $243 ($9,000 x 2.7027%)
Since you only started with $150, that would leave you with -$93.
Once you complete WR they take of the phantom bonus & you are left with -$193... :eek:

This is one reason why I feel far too many casinos have totally lost the plot regarding bonuses these days (especially when it comes to roulette). Giving players bonuses which give them virtually zero chance of even cashing out their deposit has got to be a HUGE turn-off for new casino players hasn't it?

If I was running a casino I'd give bonuses which gave players a 50/50 chance of breaking even at the end of WR, so at least they wouldn't feel they were getting ripped off.
IMHO happy players are re-depositing players... I know I am! ;)

KK
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You can find casinos that accept play on roulette to hit the wagering requirements on their bonuses but you need to have a dig around..itīs one of my bug bears..the fact that most casinos promote the bonus offer heaviliy and then tucked away in the Tīs and Cīs is a note saying you can only play the "No Payout Slot"

On roulette, the house edge is lower (particularly on even money bets on European roulette) so they will end up racking up the wagering requirements. Jackpotcity, for example, does a special roulette bonus (50% match) but the play through is 50x, which meand if you stick in $100 you have to make $5000 of bets. Do able, but bear it in mind. The other thing I do is to try and make some money on roulette, and then play out the wagering requirements on the best payout slot i can find...you can find roulette bonuses at http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ...itīs a UK site though.....

KasinoKing
..the fact that most casinos promote the bonus offer heaviliy and then tucked away in the Tīs and Cīs is a note saying you can only play the "No Payout Slot"
Obviously I agree with you that not allowing roulette in WR is silly, but I do understand why some casinos do this due to the "abuse" potential, albeit a very small and very risky chance of people profiting from it.
If I ran a casino I would allow roulette play with bonuses, but with betting restrictions which would prevent "abuse" while still allowing genuine roulette players to enjoy the game they love.

But I'm a bit confused about your "No Payout Slot" comment... :confused:
I don't know any slots which don't pay out, and in fact for the last 4-5 years nearly all my "bonus hunting" has been playing slots only and yet I have continued to make good profits playing them!
Like roulette, it's all down to control & strategy. ;)


...itīs a UK site though.....
What's wrong with UK sites???
I'm in the UK and have a .co.uk site, yet I am still able to provide very valuable & useful information to players from the USA (and the rest of the world) due to intensive research & study.
With the internet, it doesn't really matter where you live! :thumbsup:

KK
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BetUK offers 100% up to 200 in their live casino, 15x rollover as I remember, and roulette is included, counts 100%.

Casino-Club: bonus up to 100, roulette incl., counts 100%, rollover is 20

both cashable


They still know how to offer bonuses:)

Anyway I see now Kasinoking that we differ in how we look on bonuses. My startegy during play is always to earn an extra over the deposited and bonus cash. In such a case a phantom bonus is not problem. At the WilliamHill group you cannot cash out the bonus, but it remains on your account after withdrawal. So it can function as a deposited amount to earn more with it. That's why I often play there and like their bonuses.

I see you prefer cashable bonuses, maybe your main aim is to cash out the bonus + deposit?

I wonder you can regularly make money on slots. My experiences are that in most casinos slots are robbers. :confused:

KasinoKing
Anyway I see now Kasinoking that we differ in how we look on bonuses. My startegy during play is always to earn an extra over the deposited and bonus cash. In such a case a phantom bonus is not problem. At the WilliamHill group you cannot cash out the bonus, but it remains on your account after withdrawal. So it can function as a deposited amount to earn more with it. That's why I often play there and like their bonuses.

I see you prefer cashable bonuses, maybe your main aim is to cash out the bonus + deposit?

I wonder you can regularly make money on slots. My experiences are that in most casinos slots are robbers. :confused:
I'm the first to admit that my balls aren't big enough to use phantom bonuses to their full advantage! :p

Ever since I started my "bonus hunting" back in 2001, my aim has always been a very simple one - try to cash out more than I deposit... and have fun doing it!
I have used "bonus abusing" strategies in the past, but very few and far between.

I used to think slots would be robbers too, when I first started playing online. But that was probably due to 20+ years of being "robbed" by one-arm bandits!
For my first 4 years online I never touched them, but when bonus T&Cs for table games started getting silly I switched to slots play, having been given a bit of strategy advice from an experienced player. To my surprise I found it worked and I was still able to make regular profits from playing slots bonuses! And I've hit several wins well over Ģ1,000 from bets no bigger than Ģ4 - how often do you get that thrill playing BlackJack or Roulette! :cool:

For me, making lots of money from casinos is not my prime aim. I just like the thrill of gambling. All the time I can enjoy that and not make a loss while doing it I will be happy. I haven't had 2 consecutive losing months since 2001, long may it continue!

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I am greedy when you say you didn't have 2 consecutive loosing months since 2001. I hope once I will also experience that!!!

I understand now why you had those different opinions when I mentioned playtech bonuses then. My strategy is different than yours. I agree however that it would be an optimal case to complete turnover requirements for cashable bonuses, but as they really missing from most places, I started playing stratgegies that can also work with non-cashable bonuses. The interesting is that maybe it was later that I discovered it can be less risky to complete the turnover on some non-cashable bonus than struggling to earn extra on deposit + bonus:)...

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...mostly I play roulette, but I also like the thrill of slots. I mostly play them at Playtech, sometimes at RTG. But at RTG I only play with non-deposit on slots, because there I never lucky enough to win big with any slot. But at Playtech I also had some big wins several times (not 1000 however, but 200-400, that is big for me:)). Recently at Paddypower I hit the 5 Wheel of Fortune symbol on their featured slot, that gave me the top winning of 2500 credits on a single line, the problem was I was playing with their 5 no deposit bonus that was given me for filling out a survey, and my line bet was 1 cent:)

Which slots and casinos you like to play slot games anyway? My top list is: Ambercoast, Prestige, Playgate and Kiwi Casino. I found Grand Banks and Sterling House casino's slots are paying out very well, the problem was they confiscated my winnings in the end without any reason, but anyway they are on blacklist now. However the slots were vomiting the money there :) Maybe their follower, Actionwinners will also has this feature :) The only other solt outside of Playtech where I might risk my own money is Moonshine at Micro. I play that sometimes, because I like the design and figures of that slot, however I don't find it a good feature in that game that at least 10 free spins are not guaranteed, only 3, and you can get more only if you choose from the fields appearing in the bonus game with luck.