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Billy Ray
Hello everyone, Here's a roulette system that i've had success with:
Wagering on the twelve's, we'll call 1-12 'L', 13-24 'M', and 25-36 'H'. Start spinning with no bets until 5 no occurrences happen in one of the three ranges in a row. Then place a $1 wager on the range of no occurrence. If it loses, bet progressively higher in this manner:

bet Each of the progressive wagers generates
a positive cashflow result.
$1 It IS time consuming, but the only way to lose
$2 is if one of the three 'twelves' didn't appear for
$3 17 consecutive spins. I've been playing this with
$4 'Play' money now for about 2 weeks without that
$6 happening. Comments/questions welcome.
$9
$13
$20
$30
$45
$67

forester
Don’t waste time and money. System can not be profitable.
Play play play; maybe win small, until comes bad sequence, then you lose it all.

You are trying to play 3 variables and zero. There is no number based system that can win except if used somehow physics of the wheel. Anybody who is claiming that he designed system and that works based on some events is wrong.
What he actually did he confuse himself?
If any role applied is valid it should be valid if only 2 variables are used, such as black and red. But if we look so simple example then is to easy to see that system can not work.
That is why system sellers will wrap it in all kind of rules and variables.
Most of them believe if some numbers are out that another ones must come soon by the law of average. There is nothing wrong with law and one day they will come maybe we will not be there maybe our grandkids will play.
If in 1 000 000 spins there are 10 % more black numbers. That past can no reflect to future. It does not mean that next 1 000 000 spins must be more red numbers. That same applies to 10 , 100 or 1000 spins. I do not see how wheel can remember that there was 10 % more black numbers.
Forester
www.myrulet.com

mrgoldy
I have a similar strategy. except I put money down on each of the dozens, double up everytime one misses, ensuring that you have some return each time. and when the consecutive missed dozen finally hits the profit is more than all previous missed bets. It works great except for one thing, each table has limits. Does anyone know of online tables with higher limits?

mrgoldy
I have a similar strategy. Do you know of any online casinos that have no limit roulette?

mrgoldy
sorry didn't realize there was a time lapse in replying

TerryJ
Hi, mrgoldy

How high of a table limit are you looking for.

Terry

KasinoKing
Hello everyone, Here's a roulette system that i've had success with:
Wagering on the twelve's, we'll call 1-12 'L', 13-24 'M', and 25-36 'H'. Start spinning with no bets until 5 no occurrences happen in one of the three ranges in a row. Then place a $1 wager on the range of no occurrence. If it loses, bet progressively higher in this manner:

bet Each of the progressive wagers generates
a positive cashflow result.
$1 It IS time consuming, but the only way to lose
$2 is if one of the three 'twelves' didn't appear for
$3 17 consecutive spins. I've been playing this with
$4 'Play' money now for about 2 weeks without that
$6 happening. Comments/questions welcome.
$9
$13
$20
$30
$45
$67
I've checked your figures, and they are OK. You gain $3 on the $2 & $3 levels and $1 or $2 on all the others.

The three main problems are:
1. It would take blinking ages to make a significant profit (remembering that you only start betting after 5 no-hits).
2. By the time you are betting $67 on a spin, you have risked $201 to make $1 profit :eek:
3. As stated in another post, you can not cheat the maths - you will see 17 misses in a row.

However, if I had vast amounts of free time, it would certainly be worth consideration. Play at a Crypto and you're earning decent comp $ on top as well! :thumbsup:

It might be worth 'tweaking' the bet levels upwards a bit so that your profit is bigger in the first 3-4 spins, when you are most likely to hit. Or you could just skip the first two and start betting at the $3 level after 7 no-hits - this would increase the profit by $3 on all the levels. :cool:

eltel22
I'm really not a fan of the Martingale type systems. To bet on any non-occurence is asking for trouble. Far better to bet on continuity. You have to understand how probability distributions work, in order to gain from them.

PicassoSinatra
There's no surefire system that'll help you win roulette. You'll have just as much success or better flipping a coin to decide to bet on Red or Black. I mean, that's why it's called Gambling. If there was a system indeed, then roulette would be put out of commission. There's smart betting and then there's just plain old gut feeling and hoping the gambling gods are kind to you this particular time around.

mgcasinos
Hello everyone, Here's a roulette system that i've had success with:
Wagering on the twelve's, we'll call 1-12 'L', 13-24 'M', and 25-36 'H'. Start spinning with no bets until 5 no occurrences happen in one of the three ranges in a row. Then place a $1 wager on the range of no occurrence. If it loses, bet progressively higher in this manner:

bet Each of the progressive wagers generates
a positive cashflow result.
$1 It IS time consuming, but the only way to lose
$2 is if one of the three 'twelves' didn't appear for
$3 17 consecutive spins. I've been playing this with
$4 'Play' money now for about 2 weeks without that
$6 happening. Comments/questions welcome.
$9
$13
$20
$30
$45
$67


I have test your system in play money and win about $200,But lost $56 when try it in my real money mode.

berten60
$1,$2,$3,$4,$6,$9,$13,$20,$30,$45,$67

I have tested this with play money at a site called unibet where they have
a Flash & Java based roulette,and I did manage to reach the 67€ mark
and still lose...

sharve25
Hi,

I am a noob, so please forgive me if I am misguided and incorrect!

But I do have a fairly limited knowledge of online casinos and particularly roulette (I say limited as I have only been playing a few weeks)

What I would like to add is that I in fact play the same system and it has worked fairly well for me, I have won about £1000 GBP so far using it.

I would agree that it does work very well most of the time, I have tweaked it slightly by betting a bit higher and betting on individual numbers the closer you get to the 16th bet to improve the profit margin.

I have only had one ocassion (touch wood!) where it has taken more than 16 spins to come in, but I guess it must be possible.

I did hear (I do not know whether this is true) that there was a flaw in certain casinos (or rather the software they use) which meant the the software was designed to drop in at LEAST one L,M,H dozen bet in every 16 spins, and this is to stop customers/players from doubting the randomness of the system.

Also I was advised that this method will only work in 'Real Money' mode as the numbers are then generated by the casino's server therefore bringing the flaw into play, whereas when you are only using play/practice money, the numbers are only generated by your own computermeaning there is no flaw....or so I hear.

Incidentally, I did not pay one penny to find out any of the above, so they weren't making any money from me for stating these claims

This seems a fair thing to say, as we always doubt the randomness/fairness of things where computers and software are involved don't we??

Frederik
Hallo sharve25
I am also a noob. I have been reading a little about roulette strategies on the net, but it seems there are a lot of fake systems out there. Manny persons say on the strategy debates that the only way to gain sure profits is to buy a casino system. In my eyes it just sound a little like a scam. I read that you had success with a strategy and that you had won £1000 GBP. What system did you use? …haw long time did it take for you to win that amount? What casino did you use? And what does this GBP means?

In the same reply you speak about some online casinos with a flaw which meant the software was designed to drop in at LEAST one L,M,H dozen bet in every 16 spins. I have also read about that but have you found out if it works?

Forgive me if I ask to many questions :)

Thanks!
Regards
Frederik

GrandMaster
Welcome to the forum, Frederik. GBP= Great British Pound.

Frederik
Thanks grandmaster :)

Kevin777
I think the best system is to diversify your bets based on the previous results. For example bet on 1-12, red and even if the previous 2 results were, say, 31Black, 17Black. On each round correct your bets based on the previous outcome. This way you'll stay afoat for a longer period of time and will win almost in every session.

Another system is to leave the table on a winning spin, no matter how much you win on the last spin. This strategy will slightly increase your odds but don't let you win really big.

For those who want to win big sometimes and can afford losing in most of the sessions there are systems like Martingale when you increase the initial bet if you win.

However, on the long run, you'll loose money in a several big loses. All these numerous systems fails because, in fact, the outcome of every spin does not depend on the results of the previous spin. I.e. "roulette wheel has no memory". I can you give a link to the article that analyse the systems and explain why ALL of them fails to gain the edge over the house.

Frederik
Thank you Kevin777. I would like to see your article very much and would bee grateful if you would give me the link.

Steve Morgan
Hi everyone I'm Steve and a first time contributer.

It was interesting reading all your notes about betting progressions and betting on the Dozens. etc.

I always bet on the outside and have never really seen anyone win consistently betting on the inside numbers.

Reading other threads I have been disturbed to learn that not all casinos are equal (some are accused of cheating). This is really upsetting because I have a great deal of Faith in human nature. Stop me rambling please....

I'm sure there is a strategy out there that can give us the egde against casinos if we can put all our heads together and swap ideas and techniques.
I joined this thread because it is current and active. I will follow with interest where it goes.

I'll tell you a secret - there is a strategy out there!

Kiwi Steve

shinylights2
I'm sure there is a strategy out there that can give us the egde against casinos if we can put all our heads together and swap ideas and techniques.
... I'll tell you a secret - there is a strategy out there!

Of couse there is but i want to use the selling of my system to pay of my student loan. im selling it for only 5 pounds in dollars i think its 8.5$


Ive developed a new system/method it works because it does not use any of the failed ideas. The only way to win is to study roulette in the right way.

doubling your bet will always fail as a number my not come up in 180 spins.
even if you win "98%" you will lose boig on the 2%

Even a croupier amitted he had never seen anything like it.
Simple easy to learn easy to use
and i believe it is IMPOSSIBLE TO BAN

if any one is interested email (neil@neilchadwick.wanadoo.co.uk)

More info

the system in truth is a betting system witrh a filter ( getts rid of betts that are likely to lose and leaves half of the betts successful on a 1 in 12)

jesterx
Over the last few years I have seen alot of different systems come and go. I get asked alot by everyone just what is the best system to play when your sitting at the roulette table.

Now...That's a good question but people are really shocked when give them my usual response. "one that works" LOL. I get some interesting reactions to that statement but it is so true.

There are some good systems and there are some terrible systems obviously. But those who experiment and don't succeed while playing roulette (and there are lots of these people) just end up losing the plot and go out and try every system under the sun. But this never works! Maybe it has even happend to you!

I call this going to "The Dark Side". Like a street kid with no home they helplessly walk around trying to find the best way to try and survive without getting burnt by the casino. But usually in the end they do!.

I have also seen one so called gurus post some idiotic systems in a Sunday newspaper about a week ago, and I couldnt believe it. It was basically along the lines of - if you lose then quadruple your bet....YEAH fantastic system, You are sure to win money with that..NOT. But if you are really desperate you will try these sorts of things. It basic human psychology to strive for success after failure, or completely give up. And I have seen alot of players with great potential give up after a huge loss.

The smartest system fully describe how to place bets, make decsisions, become unemotional, and respect this game in its entirety.

Don't go to the Dark Side. You win save lots of money in the long run!

you can check get out a really good resourse I found this morning at HERE

kakata
I hope Pathetic is the right word ...............

Steve Morgan
Hi
I've seen columns/dozens "sleep" for 23 consecutive spins so it is quite risky to bet on a "sleeping" column/dozen with large bets for a small return. You always have the zero running against you unless you cover it with an "insurance" bet. Zero is the curse of the outside bettor so it pays to keep it safe with large wagers.

There are ways to beat roulette if you have an iron discipline for business, patience and a robust system that allows you at least 70% success.

I've worked hard to gain that system. Contact me if you want to learn more. No I'm not giving it away! :mad: It took a long time to perfect. :) But it's not expensive either! :thumbsup:
Kind regards
WRX - Steve stevemorgan@xtra.co.nz

Steve Morgan
At Last
An independent, senior member of another Gambling Forum has finally tested three separate Roulette strategies to see if they would turn a profit. The strategies tested were all from ordinary players (not hardcore professionals) who contribute a great deal to this friendly Forum. Here are the results for all to see:
1) made a 74.02% ROI
2) made a 238% ROI
3) made a 250% ROI :D

One guess as to which one is mine. Yeahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have told people and told people that not everyone is a scammer. Email me
stevemorgan@xtra.co.nz Remember the time Zone difference in the Southern Hemisphere.

Kind regards
WRX

KasinoKing
I've worked hard to gain that system. Contact me if you want to learn more. No I'm not giving it away! It took a long time to perfect. :) But it's not expensive either! Kind regards
WRX - Steve stevemorgan@xtra.co.nz
Nothing personal Steve, but as we've discussed elsewhere, and others have repeatedly said; if your system works that well why on earth would you want to sell it to other people???

Just use it to make yourself rich. :thumbsup:

I have a winning strategy too (not for roulette) which has enabled me to make profit from online casinos virtually every month since 2001.
I think I've proved that it definitely works. A lot of people don't believe me, but do I care? Nope! I just keep on doing what I do, and pulling in the cash. :cool:
If anyone wants to know how my 'system' works they can just pay a visit to my website - all the details are there. It's not rocket science & it's free!
(But you can send me wads of cash if you insist! :p )

Good luck to all gamblers!

KK
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KasinoKing.co.uk (http://www.kasinoking.co.uk/BGwinning.htm)

Steve Morgan
Hi KK

You are absolutely correct. I only put this strategy out there so Forum members might benefit from my good fortune and I could recover some of the costs of my web site. But now that I have developed this latest strategy into a very, very consistent winner the web site has become redundant.
So the strategy 'aint for sale any more. I genuinely had something to offer members so those people who have given me a hard time with all their negativity have stuffed it up for others. I'm keeping it to myself.

Kind regards
WRX

Lucky7
Hello everyone, Here's a roulette system that i've had success with:....


Yes that system is well known but works only on non electronic rouletes.
All electronic rouletes detects this type of betting and makes you deliberetly loose winings and money.
That goes for doubling system aswell and red and black bets. :thumbsup:

In most offline casinos they dont alow this type of bets 2. usualy they warn you and then they kick you out of casino.

Steve Morgan
Hi Lucky7
I've been playing online with real cash now for over three years and never had any trouble betting and beating the dreaded RNG that they supply. In fact I find the RNG's to be more random than real live dealers who can often display a "dealer signature" to thwart which ever quarter you are betting on. The total randomness actually suites my strategy! :confused:
Get on the wrong side of a dealer and you're in trouble!
I didn't used to be rich but I am now! :D
WRX

Lucky7
Hy Steve i usualy play for small money as im trying to get some sort of statistic together but anyway tryed that system aswell in manny gaming sites and as i see that on short run it can get you to make some money but long run gets you to 0 or in red numbers.
Also done some research on how people play that strategy and i noticed that usualy when start winning that way they like raising stakes(example instead of starting bet 1$ they start 20) that gets them faster to high bets they cant cover.

PS: best formula for me now is dont get gready and im fine.

Lucky7
Yes thats what i ment its already covered on forum:
Link to other topic (http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?t=26736)



Lucky7 (http://mb.winneronline.com/showthread.html?t=26736)

Steve Morgan
Hi Lucky7
You don't have to invest a great deal of money with a winning strategy. You'll find that by building from the bottom with 1 unit bets will give you practice and then confidence to use your growing Bank Roll with bigger bets until you can make enough to either supplement your normal day job or enough to go full time.
The biggest thing is to start small so you learn to control the greed emotion. I've let myself down on a number of occasions in the past by being too greedy and trying to build my Bank Roll too quickly.
You need the ability to walk away when you've reached your pre-determined target for the day.

Kind regards
WRX :D

Lucky7
Hi Steve, Probobly cos i work in gambling industry should agree with you but sorry i cant.Most profesional players confesed that in long term playing they al hawe up-s and downs and in long run they are equal to 0 , smal profit ,or huge red numbers.Gambling is yust way that could get you to exclusive lifestile for some time until bad luck strike then only depends if you able to survive.
Anyway lets get back to topic that theory mentioned above is not wery new and it has been reaserched by manny famous mathematics.First who take a try on that theory was Pascal and we can thank to him that we have probability calculations and expected returns.
He find out at end that you can only beat roulete if having infinite amout of money as soon or later your luck must change.

AcesStarCasino (http://www.acesstarcasino.com)

Lucky7
Hi Lucky7
You don't have to invest a great deal of money with a winning strategy. You'll find that by building from the bottom with 1 unit bets will give you practice and then confidence to use your growing Bank Roll with bigger bets until you can make enough to either supplement your normal day job or enough to go full time.
The biggest thing is to start small so you learn to control the greed emotion. I've let myself down on a number of occasions in the past by being too greedy and trying to build my Bank Roll too quickly.
You need the ability to walk away when you've reached your pre-determined target for the day.

Kind regards
WRX :D

And yes i think that ability is main factor:
You need the ability to walk away when you've reached your pre-determined target for the day.
:thumbsup:

Steve Morgan
Hi Lucky7

We all have periods of bad luck when gambling but if you take luck out of the equation with a mechanical strategy then luck has no bearing on the results.
Something people find hard to understand though is that you can't expect to take $100 to a casino and walk out with $2000. It's more like the other way round. You need a reasonable Bank Roll to make $100 profit.

I've seen all the mathematics produced by Pascal and even Einstein who say that a negatively geared game can never be beaten. The reality is - I've been beating the wheel now for three solid years and use the money to travel abroad each year with my wife.
I'm content to make only $50 a day which suits my lifestyle. Since we're both 'old' we chase the warm weather around the world.

Thanks for your thoughts
WRX

iluminatus
I everyone. A complete newbie here.
I started playing at the roulette about two weeks ago, using the 2/3 system. Anyway i made a very small profit. Not something worth the time i spent at the table ( online ).Anyway, i recently downloaded this report from http://winningroulettesystems.nexus-project.info/ and i wanted to hear some experience of people who played the systems.
Someone here mentioned the 17 spins strategy.Is it a winner? Or am i going to waste a lot of time winning a few bucks a day?
Furthermore, the report recommends to play for a few bucks at several casinos a day.Do you think it's wise? I mean it will take for ever to wager the bonus....
:(

Steve Morgan
It's a fraud.

WRX

iluminatus
It's a fraud.

WRX

The 17 spins system?

WarrenBuffett
Pretty much any roulette system is a fraud if the author claims to win in the long run. No roulette system can do that, only in the long term.